Hmm. I'm not sure how much of him is even there. Since we barely know what the Heart of Lorkhan is, we can't draw too many conclusions about Keening. But when I cast the flame spell on the second convector (more than 10 seconds) nothing happened. Once you have entered, ask Tolfdir what you can do to help and he will say: "Ah, yes. Objective 10: Deliver ten cogs to Arniel Gane. Keening cuts up the divine into pieces that are sundered from one another. Keening was not developed specifically to bind a soul to Numidium - well maybe it was - but its properly described purpose was to manipulate the Heart of Lorkhan with the other tools. All the Dwemer died in that exact moment with no traces to be found as well, and they -all- died (even those not trying to syphon the heart of Lorkhan) because they are telepathically linked. This may not have a real answer, but any reasonable speculation would be appreciated. Arniel's Shade is a ghost of the College of Winterhold mage Arniel Gane, who was destroyed or possibly transported to another plane at the conclusion of the quest " Arniel's Endeavor." Find Arniel Gane [edit | edit source] Head through the doorway that is directly in front and follow the long winding corridor to another large cavern. Wacking a soulgem with Keening and then...The ending of it was a bit of a conundrum, eh? I think of it exactly like the Numidium's activation by the dwemer, but on a significantly reduced scale. He should immediately use the dagger for some magic and he will "explode," dropping the dagger on the floor. 1- We don't know for sure if the dwemer died or not, they could have ascended to godhood, been warped to another realm, who knows? 2- Not all dwemer are gone, Yagram still remains as he was in another realm at the time and not affected by it. He did something pretty similar to what the Dwemer did. Basically, he's dead. Honestly, Arniel Gane disappeared because that's what happened to the Dwemer so … ooohhh… mystery. Part 2 (MGRArniel02) 10: Arniel has asked for more help with his project, though this time the request is very different. Kagrenac uses three tools on the heart. He was Soul Trapped, but Bethesda was too lazy to add him in the Soul Cairn. We basically know the outcome, and the reason, but the methodology (metaphysically) is so speculative. ), I won't assume a necromancer works the IMs. I suspect Bethesda want to leave the exact reasons for Dwemer Disappearance (and thus Arniel's disappearance) a mystery, because it's just that, a fantastic mystery. Therefore, you may prefer to instead keep the rings with their +20 No dialogue options come up or anything. This mod replaces the Conjur Spell Summon Arniel Shade, and moves it into the powers section. Arniel Gane didn't share a telepathic link with anyone or anything so only he was removed from existence. /r/teslore is a subreddit dedicated to the discussion and creation of the vast lore of The Elder Scrolls. Arniel goes to Soul Cairn, considering it involves a Soul Gem. He's suggested that there may be more I can help with in the future. Arniel Gane asks you first to find 10 Dwarven (Dwemer) cogs. The quest marker is right on his head too. Keening, Sunder and Wraithguard are the three legendary tools created to control the Heart of Lorkhan. 1- Arniel turned a dragon into an ash pile, and i got no soul because of that. The first time Arniel Gane ventures outside the College is when Tolfdir suggests that you and the other apprentices help out with the excavation of Saarthal, one of the oldest ruins in Skyrim.At that point Arniel will be teleported to a spot inside the excavation site. He knew exactly WHAT the dwemer did, just didn't understand the (meta)physics behind the whole process. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. A subreddit dedicated to the Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. With Numidium lacking and the ritual only a recreation (no sunder, no actual heart, etc. Also upgrades Arniel\\'s abilities. Arniel Gane attempted this interaction in smaller scale, and the result was the same, but instead of binding his soul to the disappeared Numidium his soul became bound to the nearest source of power, aka the Dragonborn, and that's why his shade can be cast to help the LDB in their deeds. have a fist on the other hand) It then worked for me. At any point after finding the Ancient Amulet, you can return to Arniel Gane and give him any Enchanted Rings that you have found. Really? Press J to jump to the feed. They were trying to build there own mechanical God, by doing so they accidentally sent themselves to a different dimension. I usually wouldn't care but it will not leave my quest diary. As I was playing a bit of Skyrim, I was taking part in a bit of an interesting quest. It is not, by any means whatsoever, an accurate recreation of the Dwemer's experiments with the HoL. Someone named Arniel Gane even tried to recreate the disappearance using Kagrenac's tools, and he himself disappeared. Arniel's Endeavor. Cookies help us deliver our Services. That it would go catastrophically wrong was the second most likely outcome - the most likely being that nothing would happen. Kagrenac turned the ignition on a prototype car with some unusual additions and got an unexpected result. Without a Numidium or other target, much less the proper Tonal Architecture, he had no hope of recreating the Dwemeri Extinction. The Nerevarine reports this back to the Archmage of the Mages Guild where nobody does anything useful with that info until Skyrim, when Arniel Gane attempts and presumably fails to replicate Kagrenac's actions with a depowered Keening. What do I have to do to make him take the cogs? Transmogrification is the total change of form, generally used to denote transformation from human to non-human, typically animal but generally "grotesque". I never thought so. 2- He is kinda OP, the ice knockback effect permastunned a dragon (the same dragon he turned into an ash pile). If you do the quest for Arniel Gane at the College of Winterhold he will help you explain it better. Filled soul gems can be found in dwemer automatons. He was missing 2 items, one was barely working, he was using a warped soul gem, he lacks the Dwemer genius and tonal architecture knowledge. Part 2 (MGRArniel02) 10: Arniel has asked for more help with his project, though this time the request is very different. I say partially as he doesn't really seem to have much intelligence after the fact. His body was annihilated and he had his soul bound to the LDB since he's basically a living soul gem. Anyway, I tried fast traveling a few times, walking in and out of inns and cities and I also restarted my console. Hmm, interesting, as well as somewhat sinister. Summon Arniel's Shade is a Conjuration spell that summons the Shade of Arniel Gane to aid you in combat. He takes all the rings from you, but he is more concerned with the mess you have made than with the new artifacts, and does not give you any reward (not even a boost to his disposition). So I figured that since the deeper mysteries of Aetherius are not my area of expertise, and probably my weakness in the Lore, I'd reach out to my fellow scholars and see if they could help me with their opinions. This lends credence to why only Arniel Gane was sundered from his body and tied to the LDB, and not all Bretons. Summoner, Atromancy and Necromancy have no effect. Still, I suppose you could say that Arniel cut himself out of the Dragonborn's dragon break. Being a breton - Arniel had the mixed blood of Men and Mer. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Are there any other references hinting that Keening was broken? They found piles of ash next to weapons, in Beds, and everywhere a dwemer would have been standing in the ruins of Bamz-Amschend in Mournhold. Perhaps his soul was bound to the Dragonborn, but that just means that his 'soulskin' remains in the dream, whereas he is departed. Not all the dwemer are dead though, there is that one that has corpus and is still "alive". He is a ghost. Arniel's understanding was lacking. Twin Souls only works if Arniel's Shade is summoned first. Arniel used a broken tool on a soulgem. But without the proper training, proper understanding, proper tools and proper energy sources, the end results were unpredictable. Arniel's Endeavor is an optional quest from the College of Winterhold. Arniel's Endeavor Part I. His midium. Arniel Gane is a non playable character that appears in the Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. The Dragonborn will witness this unexpected occurrence, when given the spell to summon the apparition, which is called Summon Arniel's Shade. Ensure Arniel's spell is the only spell equipped (i.e. So after Arniel Gane disappears at the end of the Arniel's endeavor quest, what happens to him? When the Dwemer disappeared, it was on account of Kagrenac using all three tools on the heart. Until we get an official response, who knows? Perhaps this lends credence to why only Arniel Gane was sundered from his body and tied to the LDB, and not all Bretons. At the second pillar you will reach an apparent dead end, but the ramp down is on the right hand side, hidden in darkness if your settings are too dark. If I remember right, he was experimenting with Keening, trying to figure out what happened when Kagrenac used the tools on the Heart(?) Summon Arniel's Shade, for 60 secs; Perks . He's suggested that there may be more I can help with in the future. Unless their thralls look like Wrathmen (? To leave it as a matter of Keening as this soul-binding thing without further implication is not going to cut it. 3- In Tribunal there is a dwemer ruin that has been untouched for millennia. All the Dwemer died in that exact moment with no traces to be found as well, and they -all- died (even those not trying to syphon the heart of Lorkhan) because they are telepathically linked. Was he Transmogrified? What happened to him? I'm not sure if he's a familiar that can be pulled from his respective afterlife, a psychic imprint the LDB can call that isn't really Gane, or if Gane literally lives inside of the LDB and he pushes him out when he's summoned. 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